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December 19, 2012 (Recessed Meeting) Page 1367 <br />Measmer: I am very concerned. My family has spent years, working hard, to <br />secure a future for them and to secure a successful future for me. And <br />that's something that I am not willing to just put on the line and be taken <br />out from underneath me. You know, that is - that is a very serious past that <br />has been dealt with me to make a decision on this. <br />Small: What have you requested, Mr. Measmer that I haven't provided to you? <br />Measmer: Well, as we were just discussing, was the reason for the denying of <br />the first bond. I would like to have seen that information and you mentioned <br />that Friday 5:00 p.m., we actually met that Thursday - <br />Small: The information was given to me by Mr. Harris at 5:00 p.m. on Friday, <br />Mr. Measmer. <br />Measmer: Okay. Well, regardless, you know I'm not gonna argue with it, but <br />you know we - you know we are put in a position and it scares me that, you <br />know, that I'm personally liable and I know each person on this board would <br />be very concerned about that. And considering what has went on, conspired in <br />the past few weeks, we've been around and around and that throws a red flag. <br />And it's, you know, we've never been faced with this issue before - any - <br />anyone that works for the county - anyone that has to be bonded never had an <br />issue. And you know, for me to say, well you know, to act on this is - I <br />just can't do it. <br />Small: You know honestly, I - I really - and this goes back to Ms. Poole's <br />comment about being denied for a bond. Mr. Harris included a lot of his own <br />personal information, made amendments to that bond application before it was <br />sent in, I don't know what additional information was sent in. It doesn't <br />matter, your sheriff still has a bond and my understanding is that you just <br />paid out a 2 million dollar settlement for the negligence of the Sheriff's <br />Office, I would think that would be a greater concern for the county than <br />what we're talking about here today. I don't want to be personally liable <br />either and I am personally liable, as an elected official of the register of <br />deeds office. But I've been around and around because I'm the one who's done <br />everything that I've been asked to do. I'm the one who's made the <br />sacrifices. I'm the one who's had to pay out of pocket, without refund every <br />time this county wants a different bond. <br />Measmer: Right, and I certainly understand that - <br />Small: I think with all due respect, I'm not sure you do Mr. Measmer - <br />Measmer: I think each one of us have paid a lot out of pocket for the <br />positions that we hold, regardless of what it is. So, you know, that just <br />comes with the territory, your position of being the register of deeds - <br />you're not going to be personally liable for anything that I do or anything <br />that I could make a mistake on. So it's easy, you know, for anyone to say <br />that yes, we should approve this, but whenever your personal assets are on <br />the line, it's a whole different ball game. <br />Small: Well, again, your personal assets are always on the line in this <br />particular profession. <br />Burrage: Well, I'm willing to stake everything I have, own, and ever worked <br />for on Mr. Small - <br />(Interruption from bystanders.) <br />Burrage: You know there's a sayin' that the Christian army is the only army <br />that shoots its wounded, and that's exactly what we're doing here today. <br />We're taking a good man - <br />(Interruption from bystanders.) <br />Burrage: Now listen. <br />Poole: Excuse me please. <br />Burrage: Let me talk. You're taking a good man and you're taking away his <br />rights, you're taking away the rights of every person that voted for that man <br />and it's wrong - I don't how you look at it, I don't care who does it and I'm <br />willing to set here right now and make the motion to pass this bond and put <br />the man in office and quit this garbage. <br />(Interruption from bystanders.) <br />Poole: Excuse me. There is a motion on the table, is there a second to the <br />motion? <br />Burrage: No, there won't be one. <br />Poole: If there is no second to the motion, the motion dies for lack of <br />(inaudible). At this point, commissioners, are there any other comments or <br />is there a motion to be made? <br />White: I make a motion to deny the bond. <br />Poole: At this point we have a motion on the table, is there a second to the <br />motion on the table. <br />Measmer: I second. <br />Poole: There is a motion and there is a second, are there any discussion <br />concerning the motion? <br />Burrage: Yeah, it's wrong. <br />Poole: There is no other discussion at this time commissioners we do have to <br />make sure that the motion is - we need to make sure that the clerk of the <br />court, I'm sorry not the clerk of court, the clerk to the board can properly <br />record the motion because you know she is also required to be able to do <br />that. So at this time those in favor of the motion please raise your right <br />hand, all those in favor. <br />